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Daniel Negreanu Says More Rake Is BETTER?!

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Daniel Negreanu is a big believer in trickle-down economics. Selfish pros have been complaining about the cancellation of player rewards, rake increases, and many other unpopular changes since Amaya acquired Pokerstars. They just don't understand the complex nuances like Daniel does. Doug explores this issue with an open mind, trying to understand where Daniel is coming from when he insists that nickeling and diming players is great for the poker ecosystem. But the quest to eradicate pros is in direct contradiction to the amateur's dream of some day climbing up the ladder. Many low stakes players imagine themselves sitting shoulder to shoulder with the legends of the game on the set of High Stakes Poker or in the World Series of Poker Main Event, maybe even the Big One for One Drop, staring down Phil Ivey, Dan Colman, Tom Dwan, and Phil Hellmuth. But with increasingly unbeatable games, that dream is dying. FOLLOW DOUG: Snapchat ► http://snapchat.com/add/WCGRider Twitter ► https://twitter.com/DougPolkPoker Instagram ► http://instagram.com/DougPolkPoker Facebook ► https://facebook.com/DougPolkPoker Twitch ► https://twitch.tv/DougPolkPoker #GrindNation
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t100base (4 часа назад)
taxation is theft and so is rake
lily vales (1 день назад)
Fuck online poker all corrupt mother fuckers anyways play live
Nova B (2 дня назад)
poor little Daniel
apollion888 (2 дня назад)
Thank God it turns out Daniel is a dick too. I was beginning to feel inferior
rd711 (3 дня назад)
In other words, rec players must improve to lose less or even win from the pros. Sounds like the way the world works in pretty much every facet of life.
hunter logan (4 дня назад)
that's called false logic and Daniel should be smart enough to defeat his own statement before saying it. I have a feeling he said it in his head once and thought it was profound and decided to say it out loud and once he did he held onto it instead of saying " ok once I said it out loud it actually sounds stupid". Daniel is just a man, and a man will say dumb things just like the rest of us do throughout life! The difference is people pay attention to what he says more than the rest of us REG's !
hunter logan (4 дня назад)
Daniel Negreanu just basically said its a healthy ecosystem to lose the middle class of poker.... WTF Daniel? Im no political science major, but most countries are built on the strength of the middle class. And any system like societies or poker for this matter will not be a strong ecosystem when the middle is wiped out and all you have is the top tear, the best of the best, and the bottom tear, the worst of the worst. Poker will come to a standstill or a new site will emerge and take over from the greed of PokerStars. Obviously, PokerStars needs to take a step back and not tax players to keep up with their lifestyle. They need to cut back on their expenses, and the bottom line for investors profits. Players will just go elsewhere if your rake is to high. I know i am, Its not difficult. Your an online site. We all just download the next best thing and boycott you. It isnt like we all have to drive 375 miles to the next casino. Its fairly easy to do and people love to cut down a giant who becomes a villian at any chance they get. Dont turn us into haters PokerStars, you are certainly becoming deserving of most recently.
Mike Germanio (10 дней назад)
has anyone pointed out that Doug just had that flag suit laying around....
Blah 0o (14 дней назад)
Blackjack is a game of skill too lol
Richard Quinn (16 дней назад)
Of course online poker is rigged, has been for a long time. You'll win and lose, but the site gets the money in the end. Like a river into the ocean. I don't know how many huge hands I can flop and lose to not think or know it's rigged. It's up to them if I win or lose. Probably based on how much a person gains experience using their site, or how many deposits made, you invest you could win, but fuck online poker, I'll stick with home games
Dan DanDanDan (20 дней назад)
Anyone else think Doug is an annoying idiot? Daniel is making a good point which obviously went way over his pointed head.
PLO 8 (22 дня назад)
Pokerstars will soon not need Pokerplayers, they gonna make most Profit with CASINO, SLots and so on.
billiard bill (23 дня назад)
If he thinks bigger rakes are better, he's in on it. lol Anybody that ever ran a weekend card game with a rake knows that eventually the house gets all the money.
Bob Eskin (23 дня назад)
Doug, is there any poker site that I, as a Floridian, can play at for real money? I started , like everyone else before Black Friday on Poker Stars and Full Tilt, I was lucky that I got paid 100% of the bank I had on Full Tilt. After that, I started playing on a Merge skin called Felt Stars, I played there and had no problem got paid when I withdrew and all was good until I logged on one day and they were gone and my bankroll had been transferred to another Merge skin called Carbon Poker. I had no problem with Carbon Poker for several years then I guess they sold the site and everything went to shit. Still I played even through one year that withdrawals were taking 3 to 4 months as that did not last and they seemed to get back on track. However, then all the player perks other than reload bonuses were taken away, and those reload bonuses are only to keep losing players. I got disgusted with a sudden change in play mostly on cash tables but also very noticeable in SnG's and Tournaments that was so blatant whether it was site bots or just players with master accounts so they could see all the players cards and the coming deck, that after all those years I requested a final withdrawal and quit the site. I went looking on the internet to see if I could find any sites recommended first stop Cardschat where I found their number one pick for straight play, honest bonus structures, it was called Ignition Casino,,, Well DO NOT BELIEVE CARDSCHAT!!!! If Carbon Poker was the worst then Ignition Casino found a way to tunnel beneath them. They reneged on the 100% match of your first deposit (up to $100.00) then in an opposite of what was reported on Cardschat they required all the playback be in the casino . So as an older American who does not have a bankroll are there ANY sites you can point me to where I can play NL Texas Holdem while living in Florida?? I have watched so many hours of your vlogs and posts, and play I feel like I know you although you obviously have no clue who I am (Although we did meet once In Hollywood, FL at the Seminole Hard Rock, (I still haven't washed the hand that shook yours LOL) Thanks and may Jebus fetch your slippers! Bob (Biker Bob) **kin**
Meddimehell (23 дня назад)
Hehe. I drop in to see this once in a while. Gets me in a good mood, for some reason. I have stopped playing on Pokerstars btw. There are lots of good alternatives out there.
Chika Bali (24 дня назад)
Hi, Doug, I am bali and i am an Artist from Bombay. Telling lies to people about firstly the online sitres are safe and top of that calling them ......you know what you said to those people who believed in the system of how rigged it is. I request you to have one time out ans open chat with me in front of all and if I am wrong ...I never will play music again. But your arrogance is something I wish somebody would stand up and say how pathetic you are in your thoughts face to face. I know time will be a problem. But try. You are doing wrong
Tom Brady (25 дней назад)
good example daniel like yeah a lot of fish are gonna pay one hundred rake
Tom Brady (25 дней назад)
They take that big a chunk of rake? the first chunk you take off
theDiReW0lf (1 месяц назад)
Glad there's ppl in the poker community calling this bullshit out. This isn't even funny. What an unbelievable shill.
Aaron T (1 месяц назад)
Why in the fuck would anyone want to lose anyone within the poker community? Good players, bad players, average players, doesn't matter. Why kill the game?
richard kaye (1 месяц назад)
Daniel is clearly a keyensian retard or just a dishonest pos. Stupid? Liar? Who cares? Same impact.
naihanchin Kempo (1 месяц назад)
as a pokers player said, you can shear a sheep many times but only slaughter them once
NoLimitCoin - No Limit Fantasy Sports (1 месяц назад)
Wow, DN thinks we are all idiots? good one Doug. Nice stack dude.
stupidaccountsoicanpost (2 месяца назад)
Pretty obvious, with small margins, and the rare big pay off, the higher the rake, the less money you make overall. Simple math. Casinos and poker sites just want to keep more of the money, and they never assume risk at all. Hell of a racket. And seriously, a gambling company engaging in activity of questionable ethics? Why act surprised by this? They can polish a turd all they want, it still stinks. And legally, shareholders are priority one, if the board does not act on that, they can go to jail.
vito corleone (2 месяца назад)
Amaya fucked the best online poker platform
Mr Freund (2 месяца назад)
Omg you look like the guitarist from blink 41
GHOSTHazeChiller (2 месяца назад)
Right? Right? Right?!
harpbcfc (2 месяца назад)
Negreanu is a bell end.
doug (3 месяца назад)
rake actually takes most since they win every game guaranteed. Can't believe full tilt when bust the amount of cash they were taking.
Sasquatch (4 месяца назад)
negreau is a bitch
bill holder (4 месяца назад)
Negreanu is a fucking commie.
Peter Cross (4 месяца назад)
The hair, I can't do it
NinjaChicken (4 месяца назад)
Intresting, how bad is it for a NL10 player?
adrocksuperstar (4 месяца назад)
The generation of so-called men from which this dude represents is the most whining, feminine, metrosexual, sellout b@$#%es I have ever had the misfortune of encountering. No one wins at poker over the long haul. That's why their statistics don't incorporate buy-ins into the winnings.
lucky you (4 месяца назад)
Hey homie I live in Vegas speak the truth to power man gj
johnny cash0009 (4 месяца назад)
right ?!! ..right?!!!...right???!!!! and this is one of the best videos u have created Doug,i saw it right after i watched the new Joey video,about,some guy DAN POLK, calling some guy a bitch..
James Mullord (5 месяцев назад)
Come on, if a pro cant profit in a high rake ecosystem how can a learning player. I cant believe DN can shill such bullshit. I'd call him a dumbass, but he cant really believe it. I'd prefer to loose to a better player with a chance of winning one day than be in a loosing system forever. How about the rake in smaller games that pro's dont play in, has that increased??
במה כה (6 месяцев назад)
Plz stop thinking you are better than neagranu. Because you not
Daniel Treadwell (4 месяца назад)
You're gay
JUICEMANN32 OnlinePoker (6 месяцев назад)
pros or no pros there will always be players at the table that are slightly better or that are playing slightly better, more rake equals less money and it affects everyone, it just isnt better for the game its only better for the site itself and thats all i got to say about that jennaye
Oscar Sare (6 месяцев назад)
negreanu fish de mierda vaya a hacerse culiar en 800 ritmos y reciba rakeback
SYN Training (7 месяцев назад)
“Wait, why am I doing this, America banned online poker”. Legit LOL’d
Derek Hoyt's Music (8 месяцев назад)
i'm a fan of you and Daniels. I do have to laugh at the youtube warriors talking like their  in a position to degrade a professional poker player while they sit at $2.95 in their poker account lol..   Always liked and respected Negreanu and his play but lets be honest everyone knows Daniel is a little bit off his rocker just by his political views and the fact he loves Hilary... That speaks volumes..lolGreat video Doug. Still waiting on that email bro for you to stake me in a big event. I'll chop my winnings with you :)  #Justlookingtostartabankrollandcareerinpokerlol
john sutcliffe (8 месяцев назад)
Absolute bullshit from Negreanu here.
josh smith (8 месяцев назад)
Doug what do you think about bet online ag poker? Being the one site that the U.S can play online? I'd love to hear your feedback on this.
LA FIERA (8 месяцев назад)
NETELLER, SKRILL BEWARE THEY ARE KEEPING CUSTOMERS MONEY LIKE MYSELF; THEY FROZE MY ACCOUNT AND KEEP MY FUNDS AND IS HAPPENING TO A LOT OF PLAYERS; BEWARE FELLOW PLAYERS
Hordible (9 месяцев назад)
Thumbs up for stacks of cash
Beanmachine91 (9 месяцев назад)
fuck off nerdgreanu!
slave trader (9 месяцев назад)
daniel nagreuau is a fucking fish and terrible at poker...hes been living off pokerstars sponsorship money..of course he will say more rake bc he gets money commision from poker stars. that midget fake hair sell out fuck.
Tera Lish 4137 (10 месяцев назад)
Did you literally had me dying when you turn to the side and said what u believed in and the background music and u even topped it off with the red white and blue lol I'm dying
Simon B (10 месяцев назад)
Nice video Doug, nobody explain it better than you for us fish.
Simon B (10 месяцев назад)
Am done with Pokerstar.
Lork Lorkman (10 месяцев назад)
good video vanessa thanks for speaking what a lot of us feel....im not much of a negs fan anymore...5-10 years ago i was but now he seems like a grumpy old man and players like you, fedor, and dan coleman are actually better than him...although i think coleman is a real piece of shit personality wise but thats a different story i guess
lester obrien (10 месяцев назад)
Daniel gives so little shit about the players he can't even be bothered to get out of bed to talk about it, somehow stars is still the biggest site surely someone take advantage of the situation and create the new home of poker
louis dorchin (10 месяцев назад)
Dnegs = Paid shill reg
A J (10 месяцев назад)
this Vanessa Selbst guy is right
Doppe1ganger (10 месяцев назад)
Either Daniel is a pos or just not that bright, i think it's a bit of both.
joey86bu1 (11 месяцев назад)
I always go to DN (high school drop outs) stars shills for economic explanations. You know what would be better for the game? If poker stars would just keep all monies won by players in tournaments! The less money you have the better it is for the game!
Ayzen Sama (11 месяцев назад)
Give up bro, they don't need you anymore....
Ayzen Sama (11 месяцев назад)
DP Do you smoke weed or only drink whiskey?
Ashton Alfred (11 месяцев назад)
So funny when he draws that diagram hahaha, Polk has some personality!
Watchin Internet (1 год назад)
You've got a talent for humor dude !
CRAIG5835 (1 год назад)
Another WSOP crap card fiasco this 2017. Matt Savage tournies NEVER have inferior cards. Be seein' ya Jack!
D Marshall (1 год назад)
Rake = Tax In what universe do individuals want more taxes?
Jan Suchopárek (1 год назад)
Daniel couldn't even be bothered to lift his head off a pillow. Disrespectful
Gam Blor (1 год назад)
Needs more fake tan on forehead.
Paul Brenner (1 год назад)
It's simple, Daniel is a house player!!
888 PKR (1 год назад)
dude he never said that you mong
James Lotz (1 год назад)
You know Daniel is a socialist libtard right? This is just how they think.
edward rhodes (1 год назад)
LOL! Brilliant! Love your channel.
MarkH10 (1 год назад)
The Casino nearest Negreanu's home has a great craps game I love. Players don't just lose on a 7, they lose on all the odd numbers. It's fantastic fun. You should try it! The Bacarrat games have a commission for BOTH Banker AND Player! I think it's the best Bacarrat innovation I've ever seen!
Alan Jankowski (1 год назад)
So, what Daniel is saying, is that by paying more rake, it keeps the pros aka "better" players away, thus giving the 98% of poker peasants a "chance" to win, because if players like Daniel play, they *never* lose. I've always liked Daniel from what I've seen of him on tv, he's very smart, down to earth, and seems like a genuinely overall good guy. But his "logic" makes as much sense as us giving a retarded billionaire thee most important job in the free world.
Markus Preissegger (1 год назад)
The comment section is full of spoiled brats.
Andy Le (1 год назад)
I agreed with Daniel. Why would you want those nitty pros coming to your game?? In Florida a lot of good private games set up to play at poker room, those are the best action poker games in America.
Raza Syed (1 год назад)
Doug / Ivey 2020.
bugsan (1 год назад)
more rake is better because DNegs is paid by Pokerstars partnership, a.k.a Pokerstars revenues, a.k.a rakes
fadi azzam (1 год назад)
cash games on line is no no just play tours .
fadi azzam (1 год назад)
well 888& wsop doing exactly that people win and lose just moving the money around, this is what they do in cash games
Dave O'Berry (1 год назад)
well said. just made me think dneg is not so smart after all.
CamZ CabYo (1 год назад)
this guy is a duchebag
João Corte Real (1 год назад)
I hate Daniel Negreanu, such a dick. I love you Doug.
A M (1 год назад)
higher rake means more action, less small ball poker, and more entertaining poker, less skill based ROI. it's understandable why u would not like it, as u are a pro. It's understandable why most people that would look at this video are unhappy with this, they are aspiring pros or trying to improve their game thru videos to be above the recreational players skill level.
Erik Parker (1 год назад)
"Rake me up, before you go-go Don't leave me winning here just like a cho-lo Rake me up, before you go-go Take my money tonight"
RSD4rkMayhem (1 год назад)
sick spray tan br0
Stevie Zion (1 год назад)
Rofl pro poker players all think they are so good at the game. Online is so rigged even at low stakes. I almost guarantee that the sites have algorithms to make fishy players lose even more than they normally would. This delusional way of looking at things that I would expect from someone who rigs a site like this. "they are gonna lose anyways so lets just make them lose more". I am not a winning player, but I have noticed REALLY fishy stuff on the sites. I also notice that these things happen alot less to the poster image players that are winning players. I watch people who stream and they win alot more and dont even play that good.... Its just that they promote the site and get rewarded with favored long term profits in poker.
Dawud Charlton (1 год назад)
I won't lie I would say same crap if I was in his shoes. But omg what a shitty lie. Pokerstars needs Will Kossuf that guy could lie better ,I'm going to make a video game where your Kossuf trying to talk down suicide jumpers. "your not gunna Jump,too long. Want a 50-50 phone a friend? (hand motions to jump) 9-8 like a boss
travz21 (1 год назад)
From one perspective, if huge rake chases out all the pros the game would be really soft. But if the games were soft enough to beat then more rake wouldn't even chase the pros off. So more rake isn't better. It's never better.
Randy Lyons (1 год назад)
I agree with you Doug!  Love your input, keep up the good work.   It's a shame that one of the main faces of poker is trying to bluff the world when we know your full of shit, Negreanu.  What sites would you recommend that has the smallest rake, better bonuses, etc.??  Maybe a video on the best online sites in the future.
Sean Jazayeri (1 год назад)
I actually think Negreanu is on to something. Make the GPI top 500 players pay a higher rake! That WILL entice the amateurs to play more. Having more amateurs play might in turn, entice the top players to pay the higher rake! Somewhat similar to the handicapping concept in Golf!
ufftatabummbumm (1 год назад)
I always liked Negreanu, but that is horseshit
9haymaker9 (1 год назад)
I am a rec player, who will be paying more rake now, so they can give me more rake back, so I can pay more rake, on the rake back when I play, with rake back. no wonder D'neg is confused. Good thing Doug is here to make it str8.
danmaxwell71 (1 год назад)
😂😂😂👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
EVs for Donkeys 2018 (1 год назад)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Stavros Georgiadis (1 год назад)
You are wrong. He is talking about live games. For example in French Riviera the game is 4%, no cap, so pros don't go there. It's a goldmine!
Davit beliashvili (1 год назад)
He's a libtard hippie :D
Terry Crow (1 год назад)
LOL - funniest vid yet, Doug! I have liked D Neg for a long time (since at least 2005) because he had a sense of humor and was just always kind of entertaining to watch - as a poker player. NOW - he tends to bullshit too much and say stupid things that aren't really funny and mislead people. And he's way annoying driving around in his Tesla. If I had to choose between your vids or his vids - I would go with Doug Polk. Doug gets that we poker players like to be analytical sometimes and we also like entertaining and funny content, but what we don't like is to be told that the piss is actually rain and that we should be happy we don't have an umbrella. Dan - sorry, but there's a new kid in town. #danielnegreanu #poker
Woof Olliesmydog (1 год назад)
I think I love you. Keep up the great work.
david sugar (1 год назад)
love rake increases. great for the game.
martin rodriguez (1 год назад)
I hate poekrstars shills like this idiot, pokerscams gtfo, he even accepts that their "old system" was fucking rigged against recreational players....
Donk To Pro (1 год назад)
this guy reminds me of dexters sister from Dexter
SN011GlobeTrot (1 год назад)
The mohawk is really on "point" this video Doug!

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