Jason Koon is one of the best high stakes players around, and today we're going to take a look at this massive pot that he and I fought for on Poker After Dark. It's a classic set over set situation, where both players are pretty sure they've got the best of it. But when this much money is on the line, sometimes it's hard to shake the feeling that you might be stepping into a trap.
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I think you over thought this one on the turn my man... I'm 3betting Jkoon on the turn there almost everytime. A 9 can't fold and worse shuts down on the river. Yeah you fold out bluffs, but he could also 5bet bluff there very infrequently.
I guess we have to work in like a bluff here on the rarest of occurrences for this one combo. Are you not even 3betting here with A9?? Maybe not against this exact opponent but is there not way too many 9s in the check raising range here that just can't fold to a turn 3bet?
I think its truly amazing koon didn't get stacked here, but I appreciate doug played it this way for balance overall. I think that's an important concept, this is like the best possible situation almost.
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I am a student of Doug in these videos, but I hate to disagree on his analysis. On the turn, Koon is representing a 9 a very high percentage of the time, 33s, and a small portion of bluffs may be less than 10% given he is OOP against a great player like Doug and it is a dry board and so Koon has to be very out of character to pull a crazy bluff in that spot. So his raises are very value high, which would all stand to get stacked if you raise there. A9, K9, or any 9 will be forced to stack off. Also if he was bluffing, the river will likely put the brakes once Doug flats the turn. So the best time to make a big reraise is the turn and put stacks at play.
But in the river, a high card like K makes it very likely one of you have filled up, and therefore once he overbets and gets raised, he is a good enough player to fold. Also, there is a very likely chance he has the K9 himself so the raise was of ZERO value- only getting called by better and getting worse to fold as seen.
U went for the biggest size what u could Doug he had 160k behind... I think against overbet u would not raise 9x so often ;-) that s why he folded and for me your sizing is too big... something like 150k would be better...
It looks like the pot size raise on the river is effectively putting Koon all in. Maybe that’s why he gets away along with his read on Doug’s potential hands of course. But let’s say Doug raises 2.5x on the river to 125k, would Koon still fold or would he get max value? Even as silly as it sounds min raising here would definitely get a call since he’s getting like 4:1. Thoughts guys??
What up Doug..been watching a few of your videos of late and I'm an active Holden player ( not big a baller like yall just local with friends weekly) however I've played about 20k matches of chess in my time ( mplayerlive before they closed,GameSpy before paurlor games closed,live,chess corner,etc among with friends) and would love to play one with you sometime...I don't have Facebook Twitter etc so I dunno..laters.
feel like you would have stacked him on the turn if you reraised...the way the hand played out Jason is only beating a bluff on the river, and you raised too much... a turn re-raise or a smaller river re-raise and you prolly make a few more bucks... easy for me to say as a profitable low limit player....either way sick lay down
Who is the losing player at this table? I'm sure everyone feels they have a small edge but winning essentially 60BB after getting a check raise and an overbet from a worse full house on a decent board for bluffs is enough to make me want to quit a marginal table.
As a side note, how many times did you think guy on Doug's right was the dealer? Lol
Man, I’m glad your in cryptocurrencies, because when I look at you all, you look like a calculator machines. If AI was at play, and it can read your body language, you’re probably will lose almost at every turn. Love your videos, poker and crypto. Big hug :)
You say we should be checking here, as we do with all of our hands, but imagine this is mtt or SnG play (which are my areas of play). Do we ever donk lead this flop? What if we are facing an agro/calling fish or other types of players? Thanks to any answers.
I generally abide or try to abide by a Doug style of play, but every now and then I mix in some unusual lines, given perceived styles.
Turn call seems bad. Its easier to stack people on turn because both players can put the person on trips or worse. You really think they gonna call alot when u move in on them on river at this level. Moving in on them on turn is the way to get the $.
he's not calling your river raise with worse hands... why are you raising the river? you really believe he's calling 9x just because he blocks full houses? please explain further, in my humble opinion it should be a flat otr
this is such a pity, you always say when you play a hand in a GTO way, it will take you many many years to be in that similar spot. The hand you played against patrick A when you bluff raised the river for 300k, he called and you got stacked, this time, after many years, when you had the goods, they folded. What can you do?
73s is very unlikely that you would have in your range OTR. Well you might tricky b/c OTT which wouldn't be profitable situation and I haven't seen anythink like that in your shoes, that is why I think you haven't have balanced range OTR. On the other way Koons range was capped on 33 and maybe 77 (but anyone would more often 3bet them than not, 99 are defenitely out) and he is almost screaming by overbeting he has them. Therefore it would be interesting to even bluffshove everything that we called turn with on cards like T+ or even 8+